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Blueinput
Universal Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard driver for Pocket PC
Fingertouch PRO
Software keyboard supporting multiple languages (English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish)
and the fT9 engine for fast text input
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msarhank TEK-Newbie

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Dear Mr. A.,
Thank you very much. Done already!
Please do keep up the good work and the superb applications. I will surely be expecting more to come.
Best regards,
msarhank |
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kaplah_jones TEK-Newbie

Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| I can't find a URL that works to d/l Smartbar. All are broken. Is it available? If so what is the cost or are you just beta testing at present? |
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radhoo TEK-Insider

Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 640
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi kaplah_jones,
you can download a trial version from www.teksoftco.com , section Smartbar. |
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Neo
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Post subject: Best choice for your Pocket PC!
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I've heard it's possible to use a bluetooth Mouse with my PDA?
I've found some info here regarding Blueinput, did anyone test this?
Thanks!
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admin Editors

Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 285
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Dear All,
A newer version of Smartbar, 1.2.009 has been released.
A snippet from the release notes:
Build 1.2.009
-Smart.exe error fixed
-White-bar-bug when Start menu was opened fixed
-Non phone edition devices compatible
-VGA Theme added
-user asked wheter to install the smartbar theme
Feel free to comment about this release. Feedback helps
Mr. A. |
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UKenGB TEK-Seeker
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 28 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Several issues regarding this.
Download link indicates it is the 1.2.... release, but it actually sends 1.0.010.
From where can the correct latest release be obtained.
In use.
I have looked for something that would put running apps in the bar at the bottom of the screen and SB looks like the answer. But...
Biggest gripe is that it's not configurable enough. Maybe I don't want the 2 'special' icons on the left, maybe I'm not interested in a Screen grabber (I'm not) and Ultra Keyboard is by your own admission worthless on a device without a hardware keyboard, so why force me to accept this clutter?
Disabling the Date plug-in is arrogant. I DEFINITELY want that to display and an app that makes such decisions for itself is BAD.
The System tray area should include those items in the std. WM5 system tray. Addition of others a possibility, but there doesn't seem to be much. However, including the std items should at least be an option as well as being able to turn OFF the date and time display (which is different from the Today plug-in, go figure).
Did I say it should be more configurable?
The Close/minimise/etc button in the top right is a disaster. Something like iLauncher KNOWS what is required for whatever is the active app. This idea of the user having to make the choice as to what action is taken is hopeless. Quite frankly, I have NO idea what app requires what, can it be 'closed' or does it have to be minimised? I don't know and I shouldn't be required to know. If I set the default to be 'Close, then SB should do that, or the nearest closest equivalent. Don't just BEEP at me.
Regarding the above, how can I actually 'Close' a system window? If I use Start/Settings/whatever, I cannot then 'Close' it. I just get an icon in the task bar that I cannot get rid of. It MUST be possible to really close a system window. Even WM5 cannot be that stupid.
Apart from these issues, SmartBar has GREAT potential as I love having running apps in that otherwise underused bar/system tray. But, it needs some work.
Oh, yes, greater configurability would be nice:-) _________________ XDA Orbit |
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radhoo TEK-Insider

Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 640
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks UKenGB,
| Quote: | Several issues regarding this.
Download link indicates it is the 1.2.... release, but it actually sends 1.0.010.
From where can the correct latest release be obtained.
In use.
I have looked for something that would put running apps in the bar at the bottom of the screen and SB looks like the answer. But...
Biggest gripe is that it's not configurable enough. Maybe I don't want the 2 'special' icons on the left, maybe I'm not interested in a Screen grabber (I'm not) and Ultra Keyboard is by your own admission worthless on a device without a hardware keyboard, so why force me to accept this clutter?
Disabling the Date plug-in is arrogant. I DEFINITELY want that to display and an app that makes such decisions for itself is BAD.
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I agree with you, these all need to change in a future release.
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The System tray area should include those items in the std. WM5 system tray. Addition of others a possibility, but there doesn't seem to be much. However, including the std items should at least be an option as well as being able to turn OFF the date and time display (which is different from the Today plug-in, go figure). |
Well I'm not sure this is a good idea. WM5's system tray contains some system icons and other third party icons, but Smartbar should stay together: why to separate the Desktop icon from the Taskbar icon when they are all part of the same application? OK, but from this comes another idea (I'm sure you will like it): Why not offering an option to autohide the left menu (the 3 icons): this way you can use the entire bar for displaying Task Icons (like hiding the quickmenu in Windows XP).
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The Close/minimise/etc button in the top right is a disaster. Something like iLauncher KNOWS what is required for whatever is the active app. This idea of the user having to make the choice as to what action is taken is hopeless. Quite frankly, I have NO idea what app requires what, can it be 'closed' or does it have to be minimised? I don't know and I shouldn't be required to know. If I set the default to be 'Close, then SB should do that, or the nearest closest equivalent. Don't just BEEP at me.
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All the buttons are in the manual, please have a look:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=smartbar&tab=info#closebutton
Actually you only need to use Minimize and Close. Minimize also Does OK when needed, automatically.
(EDITED: UKenGB, I came back to this message after a few tests with Smartbar and BlueMusic. Sorry, but I'm starting to be unhappy about what you wrote. Your feedback is most welcome, but you need to document yourself better before posting. Why? Because if you don't do this and simply jump to conclusions, your feedback will be useless, users will only run into trouble after reading your input: You've tried to install BlueMusic using the Close button in smartbar. This is like trying to install something in the PC and pressing X to quit the installation before its complete. Now why did you do that? Please, please, please, check the Smartbar's manual. You'll see that it offers many answers to your questions, its quite big and comprehensive. And my advise: Use only X and Minimize. Minimize presses OK automatically, so don't worry about the OK anymore. And if you want to close a task (wipe it from memory) use the close, but don't do this on installers or you'll terminate them!!!!!!)
| Quote: | | Regarding the above, how can I actually 'Close' a system window? If I use Start/Settings/whatever, I cannot then 'Close' it. I just get an icon in the task bar that I cannot get rid of. It MUST be possible to really close a system window. Even WM5 cannot be that stupid. |
If you close a system window (close like with the Close button in Smartbar), the result would be the termination of the process that owns that window = meaning your device will restart or hang up if you terminate a system process.
What about the Desktop (you didn't say anything about it)?
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radhoo TEK-Insider

Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 640
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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UKenGB, I came back to this message after a few tests with Smartbar and BlueMusic`s installer.
Sorry, but I'm starting to be unhappy about what you wrote. Your feedback is most welcome, but you need to document yourself better before posting. Why?
Because if you don't do this and simply jump to conclusions, your feedback will be useless, users will only run into trouble after reading your input:
You've tried to install BlueMusic using the Close button in smartbar. This is like trying to install something in the PC and pressing X to quit the installation before its complete.
Now why did you do that? Please, please, please, check the Smartbar's manual. You'll see that it offers many answers to your questions, its quite big and comprehensive.
And my advise: Use only X and Minimize. Minimize presses OK automatically, so don't worry about the OK anymore. And if you want to close a task (wipe it from memory) use the close, but don't do this on installers or you'll terminate them!!!!!! |
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Albert
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Post subject: Best choice for your Pocket PC!
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Most of the users agree that using a Mobile Device is fun, but sometimes entering large amounts of text can prove to be a painful experience.
The small screen is the biggest issue, and unless someone comes with a innovative idea, the default software keyboard is barely usable.
To overcome some of these issues, you can use Fingertouch PRO.
For your convenience, I've attached the CAB file here.
Just to name a few of its features:
fT9 predictive text input capabilities
Multilanguage support English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Greek, Russian, Danish, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish including built in autocomplete dictionaries for all.
Configurable layout, including keyboard Skin, text font, size and color
Works with various screen heights, square, qvga, vga, etc
It supports 96x96DPI and 128x128DPI. TrueVGA compatible
Can be installed on SDCard to save storage space
And much more, NOW you can try it yourself.
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UKenGB TEK-Seeker
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 28 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I would also say that the Desktop ... Hiding the special icons would be good, but I still want to see the existing System tray icons shown in SB's bar.
I guess what I want is a utility that simply puts running apps (unless specified as 'hidden') onto the existing System Tray (starting from the left preferably) - nothing more, nothing less. _________________ XDA Orbit |
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admin Editors

Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 285
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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So, as a conclusion, all what the user need to decide is wheter he wants to Close a task, or Minimize it to the background.
WM2003/5.0 by default only minimizes the Applications, so they are still in memory, consuming system resources.
This is what Smartbar's CloseButton brings new: Instead of only Minimizing, one can also press Close when he knows he wants to terminate that program.
(Like on the PC when you read something in an Internet page, you minize it to go to the page behind, but when you don't need it anymore you press the X). |
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bsabuktr TEK-Newbie

Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: sort option |
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had installed smartbar on to my imate jasjam(wm5).Its working fine except the "SORT" option.
No action when I click on SORT. |
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radhoo TEK-Insider

Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 640
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Could you attach an image with how your smartbar desktop looks?
Thanks
Radu |
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Neo
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 1301
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Post subject: Best choice for your Pocket PC!
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I've heard it's possible to use a bluetooth Mouse with my PDA?
I've found some info here regarding Blueinput, did anyone test this?
Thanks!
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bsabuktr TEK-Newbie

Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: desktop screen |
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| radhoo wrote: | Hi,
Could you attach an image with how your smartbar desktop looks?
Thanks
Radu |
Hi,
PLease see the attachment of my smartbar desktop |
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Rambler TEK-Newbie

Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Torrance, CA
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: How do you close "Settings" ??? |
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It seems the only I can get out of the "Settings" screen is to switch to the Today Screen. The "X" won't close it. Is there a way to close the Settings screen any other way?
Also, I found that the OrangeSkin taskbar icons don't change when you switch to another theme. I had to reinstall Smartbar to get the original taskbar icons back.
Thanks,
Ron |
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Rambler TEK-Newbie

Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Torrance, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: How do you close "Settings" ??? |
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| Rambler wrote: | It seems the only I can get out of the "Settings" screen is to switch to the Today Screen. The "X" won't close it. Is there a way to close the Settings screen any other way? |
Wow... No one can tell me if there's a way to exit the Settings screen other than having to switch to the Today screen? And again - "X" and "OK" are not available to close this. Wierd... |
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radhoo TEK-Insider

Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 640
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: Re: How do you close "Settings" ??? |
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| Rambler wrote: | It seems the only I can get out of the "Settings" screen is to switch to the Today Screen. The "X" won't close it. Is there a way to close the Settings screen any other way?
Also, I found that the OrangeSkin taskbar icons don't change when you switch to another theme. I had to reinstall Smartbar to get the original taskbar icons back.
Thanks,
Ron |
Hi Rambler,
"X" cannot be used on system windows - if we would allow this, it would hang your device.
"OK" only works with some of the windows, mainly dialogs.
So for settings a good choice would be to use "Minimize". |
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Albert
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Post subject: Best choice for your Pocket PC!
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Most of the users agree that using a Mobile Device is fun, but sometimes entering large amounts of text can prove to be a painful experience.
The small screen is the biggest issue, and unless someone comes with a innovative idea, the default software keyboard is barely usable.
To overcome some of these issues, you can use Fingertouch PRO.
For your convenience, I've attached the CAB file here.
Just to name a few of its features:
fT9 predictive text input capabilities
Multilanguage support English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Greek, Russian, Danish, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish including built in autocomplete dictionaries for all.
Configurable layout, including keyboard Skin, text font, size and color
Works with various screen heights, square, qvga, vga, etc
It supports 96x96DPI and 128x128DPI. TrueVGA compatible
Can be installed on SDCard to save storage space
And much more, NOW you can try it yourself.
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